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the fight now has moved to michigan. they are angry over the expect expected passage of a new law demanding dues from workers. that has them angry. happy monday, everybody. bill: how was the weekend. martha: weekend was good. it was like we got the tree up. it barely fits in the living room but that's okay. bill: michigan workers back to work, tomorrow, tuesday, the first order of business is the final votes on the law and off to the governor's desk. he has said he will sign it into law but critics day it's an assault on workers rights. have a listen here. >> this legislation isn't about anything except an attack on workers' rights and roll people back from what we fought for for generations. >> i view this as solving and issue for michigan workers. this is about giving workers choice. we have hard workers in michigan. martha: here we go. john fund is national affairs columnist for the national review. welcome. good morning to you. it's very interesting when you watch what some would call market forces, changing the dyna
the fight now has moved to michigan. they are angry over the expect expected passage of a new law demanding dues from workers. that has them angry. happy monday, everybody. bill: how was the weekend. martha: weekend was good. it was like we got the tree up. it barely fits in the living room but that's okay. bill: michigan workers back to work, tomorrow, tuesday, the first order of business is the final votes on the law and off to the governor's desk. he has said he will sign it into law but...
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. -- michigan. what is happening now new next hour. jon: mexican american singing sensation jenni rivera is confirmed dead after the plane she was using crashed in mountains in north mexico. six other were killed. they are searching for wreckage in the plane. she sold millions of records and won all kinds of awards. jenna: well a young lukemia patient is now in full remission after a experimental new treatment that some say may change the way that we treat cancer. doctors using a disabled form of hiv altered 6-year-old emma whitehead's immune cells. her parents agreeing to the procedure in a last-ditch effort to save her life. six months later apparently she is doing okay. dr. lee vinocur of lsu is with us now. let's go through this step by step, doctor. why a disabled form of hiv? >> well it is interesting. it is a form of immune therapy and hiv is a virus that invades t-cells and very frequently we use viruses as vehicles to get into cells and by using the t-cells, the t cells get targeted and engineered to kill her b-cells which are
. -- michigan. what is happening now new next hour. jon: mexican american singing sensation jenni rivera is confirmed dead after the plane she was using crashed in mountains in north mexico. six other were killed. they are searching for wreckage in the plane. she sold millions of records and won all kinds of awards. jenna: well a young lukemia patient is now in full remission after a experimental new treatment that some say may change the way that we treat cancer. doctors using a disabled form...
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where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios >> 13 employees fired, two suspended without pay for a month. chrysler making no bones about it, these guys broke their rules. megyn: but have their jobs back anyway thanks to the arbitrator who has been taking a look at this dispute. rob is the reporter you just saw in the clip. we're also joined again by dan calabrese. dan, let me ask you, we talked earlier about michigan becoming a right-to-work state which is surprise to many, this is the birthplace of unions. this is the united auto workers. this is detroit. and, you know, there is a question about whether this type of story has gotten into the mind of people in michigan, this and others like it, where they said, you know what? let's open the door
where this happened, in michigan. i will pick up on that and how this story plays in right after the break. we'll carry you guys over. stay with me. hmm, it says here that cheerios helps lower cholesterol as part of a heart healthy diet. that's true. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios >> 13 employees fired, two suspended without pay for a month. chrysler making no bones about it, these guys broke their rules. megyn: but have their jobs back anyway...
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jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have contributed to belcher's actions, he could have made other choices. you cannot save people from themself. bill, what's with the $10 fine for saying cool or awesome on the factor? just applies to staff, darrell. this is a no cliche zone here. we have a bunch of younger people working for us. sometimes the conversation sounds like an episode of american bandstand. the fines go to charity.
jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have contributed to belcher's actions, he could have made other choices. you cannot save people from themself. bill, what's with the $10 fine for saying cool or awesome on the factor? just applies to staff,...
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i checked the michigan statute. the only time you can make a citzens' arrest, megyn, if is felony is committed in your house or see a felony being committed in the public or a police officer asks you to assist in apprehending a suspect. none of those things happened here. he had no right to carry out a citzens' arrest. megyn: so what, david? the police can drive with impunity and according to mr. mcclain the cop was speeding, wasn't wearing his seatbelt and was endangering a k-9, a dog who was in the back of his vehicle. >> this mr. mcclain is looking out for the folks, megyn, in this case law enforcement. he has tremendous concern for their safety. look, was this a little overzealous? yes. thankfully he didn't do a pit maneuver. he didn't lay down spike stress. he used his camera. you think this had something to do with a youtube moment i guess? megyn: no. >> michigan there is reckless driving and careless driving. was he engaging in reckless driving endanking safety of others and himself? i don't think so. was it
i checked the michigan statute. the only time you can make a citzens' arrest, megyn, if is felony is committed in your house or see a felony being committed in the public or a police officer asks you to assist in apprehending a suspect. none of those things happened here. he had no right to carry out a citzens' arrest. megyn: so what, david? the police can drive with impunity and according to mr. mcclain the cop was speeding, wasn't wearing his seatbelt and was endangering a k-9, a dog who was...
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jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have contributed to belcher's actions, he could have made other choices. you cannot save people from themself. bill, what's with the $10 fine for saying cool or awesome on the factor? just applies to staff, darrell. this is a no cliche zone here. we have a bunch of younger people working for us. sometimes the conversation sounds like an episode of american bandstand. the fines go to charity. ryan from cleveland, tennessee. i am eight years old and watch the factor almost every night. you know what, ryan? i appreciate that very much. so i'm sending you a nice christmas present. hope you enjoy it. finally tonight, the factor tip of the day, as you may know, we raise money for the wounded warrior project and for the fisher house wh
jim from michigan. why is everyone talking about belcher when a man in wyoming stabbed his father's girlfriend to death and killed his dad with a bow and arrow. the belcher story gets played because he was a professional football player. >> although alcohol and painkillers might have contributed to belcher's actions, he could have made other choices. you cannot save people from themself. bill, what's with the $10 fine for saying cool or awesome on the factor? just applies to staff,...
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the michigan polls show this is a winner for people who with unions. the governors ratings are very mediocre. majority say that after they hear both sides, they are against right to work and 80% say this is not -- this shouldn't be a priority at all. actually, more say they're going to hold it against legislators for voting for it than reward them for it. >> we know what we will be talking about in 2014 in the midwest. we have that clear. we know what this will be about. >> we already had a debate about this early in the year. scott walker -- >> he sort of -- >> it's hard to say the union people will have to be worried right now. >> it does feel as if when this moves, it moves. the question is, can they calibrate on another policy. we asked in the last 100 years how many presidents were elected after serving in the house, but not in the senate. there's just one. president george h.w. bush was a congressman for texas, unsuccessful candidate for the united states senate. then of course he was u.n. ambassador, cia director and vice president before he was
the michigan polls show this is a winner for people who with unions. the governors ratings are very mediocre. majority say that after they hear both sides, they are against right to work and 80% say this is not -- this shouldn't be a priority at all. actually, more say they're going to hold it against legislators for voting for it than reward them for it. >> we know what we will be talking about in 2014 in the midwest. we have that clear. we know what this will be about. >> we...
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when he speak in michigan today. president obama will be stepping in the middle of i awe heated debate between unions and those who want to make michigan a right to work state. >> hundreds of union workers responding to the republican legislatures push to make michigan the 20th right to work state in the nation. gop lawmakers are expected to pass it. governor rick snyder once called the legislation divisive is backing the plan. >> this is somely focused on their relationship. shouldn't they have an opportunity to belong or not? it is good for economic development for more jobs coming to michigan. >> union workers disagree and argue that mish mishh was built on unions and clam that the gop majority legislature is attacking the middle class. >> it is important. they will try to reconcile the bills and the governor who didn't want the legislation is signing. we'll not stand for it >> over the weekend they continued to prepare members for staging demonstrations against did the measure. if the vote goes through, it will h
when he speak in michigan today. president obama will be stepping in the middle of i awe heated debate between unions and those who want to make michigan a right to work state. >> hundreds of union workers responding to the republican legislatures push to make michigan the 20th right to work state in the nation. gop lawmakers are expected to pass it. governor rick snyder once called the legislation divisive is backing the plan. >> this is somely focused on their relationship....
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he is a democrat from michigan. he has been the at forefront of labor issues in that state since the 1960s. he is obviously against what happened in the state government. we'll talk to him a little bit what is next and what does it mean for the transitioning u.s. economy. jon? jon: there are brand new developments, jenna, in the alaska serial killer case. who police say this confessed killer of a young barrista was also targeting and why he never carried out his deadly plan. >>> as a deadly bloody civil war rages in syria, the opposition gets new support from around the wormed and the united states. what president obama just said. and a look how this crisis figures in the foreign policy challenges mr. obama faces in his section term. that is -- second term. that is next. [shouting] having you ship my gifts couldn't be easier. well, having a ton of locations doesn't hurt. and a santa to boot! [ chuckles ] right, baby. oh, sir. that is a customer. oh...sorry about that. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress
he is a democrat from michigan. he has been the at forefront of labor issues in that state since the 1960s. he is obviously against what happened in the state government. we'll talk to him a little bit what is next and what does it mean for the transitioning u.s. economy. jon? jon: there are brand new developments, jenna, in the alaska serial killer case. who police say this confessed killer of a young barrista was also targeting and why he never carried out his deadly plan. >>> as a...
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>>reporter: the president criticized the right-to-work deal that michigan's republican legislature is set to pass calling it a right to make less money and says it doesn't have anything to do with economics but licks. >>shepard: does the fact that the two men who are the last two to meet on this matter, met together and did not come out bellyaching about the other side, is that positive or am i looking for a silver lining? >>reporter: it could be a sign of progress. there are signs from the people on capitol hill who have to vote on a deal. speaker boehner spokesman said the republican offer made last week remains the republican offer but on fox news sunday, tennessee senator corker suggested the republicans could get more leverage on entitlement cuts by giving the president the tax hikes he want. >> people are putting forth a theory and i think it has merit where you go ahead and give the president the 2 percent increase he is talking about, the rate increase on the top 2 percent, and suddenly the shift goes back to entitlements. >> when the two sides are beyond the fiscal cliff dead
>>reporter: the president criticized the right-to-work deal that michigan's republican legislature is set to pass calling it a right to make less money and says it doesn't have anything to do with economics but licks. >>shepard: does the fact that the two men who are the last two to meet on this matter, met together and did not come out bellyaching about the other side, is that positive or am i looking for a silver lining? >>reporter: it could be a sign of progress. there are...
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the president back on the campaign trail back in michigan. if the private meeting with the house speaker was a sec ses, over the weekend -- success over the weekend the public back and forth is back where it was. bring in the panel. jonha goldberg, at large editor of national review online. juan williams, columnist with the hill. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. we often can read things from what is said in public. but we don't know a lot what about is said in private. we do know we are a step closer to this cliff. i'm pretty sick and people are sick of calling it a cliff. what do you think? >> yeah, first of all, i made the point the last time i was here. really weary of senators going out talking as if they are an integral voice in this conversation. this is still a conversation between boehner and obama. i think brit hume was right earlier. boehner has a weak hand. the fact he has a weak hand is causing something close to a panic among the republican rank and file. >> bret: thank you for that. >> you're welcome. i think that y
the president back on the campaign trail back in michigan. if the private meeting with the house speaker was a sec ses, over the weekend -- success over the weekend the public back and forth is back where it was. bring in the panel. jonha goldberg, at large editor of national review online. juan williams, columnist with the hill. and syndicated columnist charles krauthammer. we often can read things from what is said in public. but we don't know a lot what about is said in private. we do know...
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passing legislation this week making michigan the 24th right to work state, the state of michigan the birthplace of the u.a.w. >> clayton: that's right, mike. the landmark decision banning unions to force workers to join a union. the man you're looking at it the mackinac center, vincent. >> good to be on. >> clayton: does it set a precedence for unions? we're 24 states not a majority yet, but michigan, the birthplace of the labor movement there, labor union, is this setting a precedent for the the death of unions? >> i don't know if it's the death of unions, it's actually going to make unions stronger. it may be the start of the end of-- when you have like you said the birth the of the awe with, the fifth highest union membership in the country, traditionally considered a union strong hold giving workers the freedom to choose whether or not to join the union and still keep their jobs? it's historic after indiana did it and now michigan, some of the other midwestern states are going to have to take note if i want to be competitive i may have to give workers the same freedom. and may be
passing legislation this week making michigan the 24th right to work state, the state of michigan the birthplace of the u.a.w. >> clayton: that's right, mike. the landmark decision banning unions to force workers to join a union. the man you're looking at it the mackinac center, vincent. >> good to be on. >> clayton: does it set a precedence for unions? we're 24 states not a majority yet, but michigan, the birthplace of the labor movement there, labor union, is this setting a...
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that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that's at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills that businesses are looking for right now, and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology and clean energy. i want to put people back to work rebuilding our roads and our bridges and our schools. [applause] that's how we grow an economy. i want us to bring down our deficits, but i want to do it in a balanced, responsible way. and i want to reward -- i want a tax code that rewards businesses and manufacturers like detroit diesel right here, creating jobs right here in redford, right here in michigan, right here in the united states of america. [applause] that's where we need to go. that's the country we need to build. and when it comes to bringing manufacturing back to america -- that's why i'm here today.
that's the idea that built michigan. that's the idea that's at the heart of the economic plan i've been talking about all year long on the campaign trail. i want to give more americans the chance to earn the skills that businesses are looking for right now, and give our kids the kind of education they need to succeed in the 21st century. i want to make sure america leads the world in research and technology and clean energy. i want to put people back to work rebuilding our roads and our bridges...
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[ laughter ] >> dude, you're from michigan, detroit, "8 mile." you've got to come up with better rhymes than, busting disgusting! if you want to win the rap battle-of-got to put some effort into it! you had one job at one factory. wouldn't you seize every benefit you could? yo! ♪ palms sweaty, knees weak, building chevys. ♪ ♪ like the volt, you plug it in and you win ecologically, because if it were an actual race, you would not ♪ ♪ actually, you have to go for the union or robots are going to take away our jobs ♪ ♪ or to the chinese kids with the tiny hands the work will go ♪ ♪ this opportunity comes once in a lifetime yo ♪ [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat the soup. all those veggies and beans, that's what may help lower your cholesterol and -- well that's easy [ male announcer ] progresso. you gotta taste this soup. military families face, we understand. at usaa, we know militar
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congress from michigan. more voters in michigan cast a ballot for a democratic member of congress than cast a ballot for a republican member of congress. and it was by quite a lot, by a couple 100,000 votes. overall, more michigan voters wanted to send a democrat to congress to represent them than wanted to send a republican to represent them. guess who is actually going to congress to represent them? ah, yes, republicans. michigan's congressional delegation will include almost twice as many republicans as democrats, even though more people in michigan picked a democrat when they voted for congress. republicans got nine seat and the democrats got five. what has happened in michigan is not some sort of miscounting of the votes. it is not a mistake. it is weird quite deliberately, and weird by design. elected officials draw up new districts for electing members of congress in state legislatures every ten years after the new census. well, republicans were in charge this time around in michigan, so it was the re
congress from michigan. more voters in michigan cast a ballot for a democratic member of congress than cast a ballot for a republican member of congress. and it was by quite a lot, by a couple 100,000 votes. overall, more michigan voters wanted to send a democrat to congress to represent them than wanted to send a republican to represent them. guess who is actually going to congress to represent them? ah, yes, republicans. michigan's congressional delegation will include almost twice as many...
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it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired. the union said, have you to pay for a union strike in new york, or we will get you fired when i was writing editorials against the strike in new york. so this is the -- it is that kind of coercion, which is coming to an end, everywhere. you heard it right here. the folks in michigan said, we looked at indiana, they are gettingions, businesses are coming in there. that's why we did it. they look south, where are the foreign companies coming? spartanburg, south carolina, bmwar plants, mercedes, tuscaloosa. volkswagen volkswagen, chattanooga, nissan plant. whe
it was in ojaio and in michigan?! cadillac square. that's detroit, where the democratic candidates launched their campaigns. >> greta: wroont you agree that private-sector unions are much different in in terms of historically, needing protection and gathering together -- pooling resources. >> i'm a union guy. i am in aftra/sag. i pay dues and i don't have to. i was a journalist in 1962. the editor hired me and they said, you have to join the union in 60 months or you will be fired....
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the president commented today on the battle over michigan's so-called right to work bill. hundreds of demonstrators showed up at the state capitol in lansing to protest the measure. it would make it illegal to force workers to join unions or more specifically to pay dues. supporters say it will bring more jobs to the state but opponents say non-union workers will end up getting union benefits for free. they claim the real goal is to weaken organized labor. >> these so called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics. they have everything to do with politics. what they're really talking about is giving you the right to work for less money. >> this is a state issue. indiana did this under governor mitch daniels a couple years ago. they've had some job growth since then. we have to compete. my district is along the state line. we have to compete with them. >> reporter: if it happens, this would be -- michigan would be the 24th state toes pa the law. the house and senate approved their own versions last week. they're set to pass final bill tomorrow. opponents ar
the president commented today on the battle over michigan's so-called right to work bill. hundreds of demonstrators showed up at the state capitol in lansing to protest the measure. it would make it illegal to force workers to join unions or more specifically to pay dues. supporters say it will bring more jobs to the state but opponents say non-union workers will end up getting union benefits for free. they claim the real goal is to weaken organized labor. >> these so called right to work...
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. >> protests over michigan's right to work legislation carried into the night. earlier demonstrators were outside and inside the capitol as michigan's house passed the bill the senate approved earlier. protesters demand the governor veto the bill. >> i appreciate they have a different perspective. but this is the right thing for michigan. it gives workers choice. the workers freedom to choose. i view it as pro-worker. >> the new law means workers don't have to pay union dues while still getting union representation. >> thousands of san jose workers can circle a date on the calendar for what they'll be getting a raise. the city's new minimum wage will go up to $10. that's because of a measure that voters passed. they join only a handful of cities that have their own minimum wage. >> fresh dungeness crab is coming to a store near you. fish brokers wanted to drop the price saying high demand had led to low retail prices. they've agreed to $3 a pound. the local market should start receiving crab on friday. >>> still to come, a pair of secret santas surprise shoppers
. >> protests over michigan's right to work legislation carried into the night. earlier demonstrators were outside and inside the capitol as michigan's house passed the bill the senate approved earlier. protesters demand the governor veto the bill. >> i appreciate they have a different perspective. but this is the right thing for michigan. it gives workers choice. the workers freedom to choose. i view it as pro-worker. >> the new law means workers don't have to pay union dues...
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the governor calls the measures pro-worker and pro-michigan. a democratic lawmaker said passing these bills is, quote, an act of war on michigan's middle class. >>> this might be a sign of times. the pope has entered twitter. i love this picture. i just love it. pope benedict xvi posting his first mess an at the vatican. thank you for your generous response. i bless all of you from my heart. within an hour the pontiff had achieved 700,000 english-speaking followers on his account. his handle if you want to get with the program is @pontfx. >>> get ready for another member of the bush
the governor calls the measures pro-worker and pro-michigan. a democratic lawmaker said passing these bills is, quote, an act of war on michigan's middle class. >>> this might be a sign of times. the pope has entered twitter. i love this picture. i just love it. pope benedict xvi posting his first mess an at the vatican. thank you for your generous response. i bless all of you from my heart. within an hour the pontiff had achieved 700,000 english-speaking followers on his account. his...
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my grandmother in a farm in michigan had a ring telephone, no electricity, a outhouse and she watched the first guy walk on the moon. >> i would like to see the next generation leave footprints like we left on the moon. i hope that happens. >> fly me to the moon airs tonight, 9:00 eastern. you do not want to miss it. >> last week two republican senators presented their version of the dream act. could it been the g.o.p. answer to immigration? we'll talk to texas senator kay bailey hutchison will the act and more. >>> also a school in little rock plans a voluntary trip to see a charlie brown christmas play at a church and steps into the crossfire of a culture war. it's the real deal and it's coming up. [ female announcer ] food, meet flavor. flavor, meet food. it's time for swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth in easy to use packets. mix it into skillet dishes, for an instant dose of... hell-o! [ female announcer ] get recipes at flavorboost.com. starts with arthritis pain and a choice. take tylenol or take aleve, the #1 recommended pain reliever by orthopedic doctors. just two alev
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host: we will have live coverage of president obama as he heads to michigan at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. he will be making those remarks in michigan, pushing for his case in the so-called fiscal cliff talks. back to your phone calls. democratic caller, the vienna. caller: i have one thing to say, probably two. there should be a fair tax on everyone. that man who was running for president, i cannot think of his name right now, he had the 999 plan. the rich, the poor, they would be taxed 999. i think that that should go into effect. as far as welfare, we should bring back or bring in the u.s. collecting welfare and go ahead and put drug testing in their. people testing positive for drug use, crack, cocaine, they should be pulled off of welfare. get that money back. i think we should all sacrifice the tax that everyone on their income would not have to pay. host: ok, that was wilson from louisiana. this headline is from "the baltimore sun." "a clash over supreme court cases." the piece goes into two justices and their coalition sunny side, when the court takes on gay marriage
host: we will have live coverage of president obama as he heads to michigan at 1:30 p.m. eastern time. he will be making those remarks in michigan, pushing for his case in the so-called fiscal cliff talks. back to your phone calls. democratic caller, the vienna. caller: i have one thing to say, probably two. there should be a fair tax on everyone. that man who was running for president, i cannot think of his name right now, he had the 999 plan. the rich, the poor, they would be taxed 999. i...
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we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at most of those jobs aren't going to be unionized and they are going to be good paying jobs. this is all about more and better jobs and good paying jobs. it's going to work in michigan. >> bill: i have got to ask you about detroit which is a city on the verge of collapse. we think mayor dave bing is a good guy. maybe i'm wrong. i don't follow it that closely. detroit has no money. can't pay its bills. who is going to bail out detroit or is the whole structure going to collapse. >> there is not going to be a bailout of detroit in terms of state resources. as a practical matter what the real issue is is
we didn't have right to work in michigan and in the last decade from 2000 to 2010 wages in michigan went down substantially. we went from being in the teens of the 50 states to being 40th. so we saw a significant drop not being a right-to-work state. the last couple years we started coming back up, i view this as an opportunity for more people to have work and to have better jobs. just this last week we are ranked number three for high tech job growth in the entire country. and if you look at...
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to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the $25 billion price tag on this little-known tax will affect everyone of us. we'll tell you what it is. bill: we'll get back to this tragic mall shooting in oregon. the height of the mall shopping season. inside the mind of a shooter and an update from police on a possible motive this story. >> for all of us the mall is supposed to be a place we can all take our families. feel comfortable this is a great place, especially at the holiday season like this. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop?
to locate in michigan. we're the automobile manufacturer of the world and we need to have a open sign on that. i think this is also a step that we will not take workers rights for granted. it is all about worker empowerment and worker choice. bill: it is an economic earthquake in michigan. thank you for your time. >> thank you very much. bill: all right. 18 past the hour. martha. martha: there are some new concerns about a hidden fee that is just coming to light to pay for obamacare. the...
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here in michigan or creating a business here in michigan, you now as employees will have the choice whether to join a union or not to join a unit. >> do you have any sort of study to show this is in any way going to enhance the economy of michigan? can you point to other states? has this been a direct impact on their states, their economic viability. >> if you look at indiana, the amount of projects they are about to take and have undertaken have given their people a great tune to provide jobs in their communities. >> why do you think the governor changed his mind on this? a lot of people were talking, a lot of the contracts don't like it because they didn't like the process. it got pushed through quickly, and, b, the governor change the his mine the last couple months. >> the governor locked at it and said this is an opportunity that is here. it's bold. against it's historic because it puts michigan on the map as a place people are going to want to do business. >> why is an opportunity now and not before? >> he asked the leaders to stand down on it and they did not, so i'm not read
here in michigan or creating a business here in michigan, you now as employees will have the choice whether to join a union or not to join a unit. >> do you have any sort of study to show this is in any way going to enhance the economy of michigan? can you point to other states? has this been a direct impact on their states, their economic viability. >> if you look at indiana, the amount of projects they are about to take and have undertaken have given their people a great tune to...
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joining me now, politico executive editor and ron mott live in lansing, michigan. first, you, ron mott, the day after the governor rick snyder has signed the right-to-work bills, what is the labor movement planning to do next? >> well, we don't know, andrea. pretty quiet on that front, much like it is down here on the street. far different scene yesterday, of course, a lot of union workers very upset about not just this legislation that's going to wipe out a 77-year-old requirement that workers be forced to pay union dues as a condition of employment, they are upset also about how this was jammed through the legislature. this was passed in both bodies in four days time and signed by the governor last night. what the advocates of this legislation say is union shops and unions no longer can just depend on fattening up their membership roles by default, they actually have to go out and sell themselves, sell their benefits to the workforce in order to earn those memberships. so we'll see how this all changes. the law will go into effect some time in late march or early
joining me now, politico executive editor and ron mott live in lansing, michigan. first, you, ron mott, the day after the governor rick snyder has signed the right-to-work bills, what is the labor movement planning to do next? >> well, we don't know, andrea. pretty quiet on that front, much like it is down here on the street. far different scene yesterday, of course, a lot of union workers very upset about not just this legislation that's going to wipe out a 77-year-old requirement that...
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how do you think it will change things in the state of michigan? fifth iest union state in the country. >> it's showing you what is happening in the rust belt. you have had it happen in wisconsin and indiana. weakening of the grip of unions. we saw when the auto went in collapse, auto company in the south, transplants did well because they weren't saddled with the union wages but also the union work rules, which are insane. so i think will be l be loosening of the grip. way to stay competitive. >> astonishing this is all happening in the heart of union land, historically. i will add to charles, because it's the lightning round that ohio is next possibility. harder go there. it would have to be done by ballot initiative, weakening the union. >> john: five seconds or less. >> i agree with everything they said and the key is eliminating the dues check off on the public sector union of michigan because that is where the democratic party gets its money. >> john: senate voted for. see where that goes. thank you all. that is it for the panel. stay tuned t
how do you think it will change things in the state of michigan? fifth iest union state in the country. >> it's showing you what is happening in the rust belt. you have had it happen in wisconsin and indiana. weakening of the grip of unions. we saw when the auto went in collapse, auto company in the south, transplants did well because they weren't saddled with the union wages but also the union work rules, which are insane. so i think will be l be loosening of the grip. way to stay...
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now, it's in michigan. and what is going on is that when republicans particularly when there's a republican governor and republican state legislator they're going hard right at organized labor and also been a very chief ally of the democratic party. and so far republicans have been able to mess with organized labor and score political points in doing so. >> we have a map actually up with 23 right to work states right now and it was so interesting, mark, that the former governor of michigan john engler on with chuck todd and discussed the right to work prospect and when he was leaving the state. >> it was something that we always talked about but it was -- it was at that time in the region there were no right to work states. indiana moving to right to work status changed the game in the midwest. now your neighbor is able to compete dlimpbt r differently. >> i want to take the audience to michigan. president obama discussing the fiscal cliff. let's listen in. >> make sure your kids can go to a good school. ma
now, it's in michigan. and what is going on is that when republicans particularly when there's a republican governor and republican state legislator they're going hard right at organized labor and also been a very chief ally of the democratic party. and so far republicans have been able to mess with organized labor and score political points in doing so. >> we have a map actually up with 23 right to work states right now and it was so interesting, mark, that the former governor of...
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demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution. that ballot issue failed in the november election. >> what continued after that is start of the discussion right to work. >> it became a loud and boisterous discussion. so i felt at times in terms of the good leadership to say i didn't want it on my agenda now. it's here. >> demonstrators say working men and women are the subject of political retribution. >> retribution for standing up and fighting for working people. they want to us attack the different groups. they attack us. >> right to work legislation would outlaw the mandatory union due and membership as
demonstrators came from all over michigan and neighboring states. united auto worker, teamsters, brotherhood of ewhether he can tri call workers and school teachers. the school district reports 750 staffers called in sick and schools were closed. this is a fight that the michigan governor, republican rick snyder said he did not want. he says he warned labor proponents against an effort called proposition two. which would have enshrineed selective bargaining rights in the michigan constitution....
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. >>> plus, michigan's right to work, a cosmic close shave and an update for you on that little guy, the ikea monkey in canada. >>> but first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and the hustle and bustle of the holiday season took a terrifying turn in portland, oregon, yesterday, when a masked gunman stormed into a busy shopping mall and opened fire, killing two people, injuring another before apparently turning the gun on himself. nbc's kirk gregory has the chilling details. >> reporter: a day of holiday shopping turned into a horrific afternoon of terror when a gunman opened fire inside a crowded suburban portland mall. >> we started receiving calls at 3:30, multiple 911 calls. we responded quickly. >> reporter: several store employees locked themselves in break rooms and bathrooms until police could arrive. >> many people locked in place, many people ran. those are the two most appropriate things to do in these circumstances. >> reporter: shaken family members waited anxiously for news as police worked to secure the mall and search for victims. >> i just want to hug her and i
. >>> plus, michigan's right to work, a cosmic close shave and an update for you on that little guy, the ikea monkey in canada. >>> but first, good morning, everyone. i'm lynn berry. and the hustle and bustle of the holiday season took a terrifying turn in portland, oregon, yesterday, when a masked gunman stormed into a busy shopping mall and opened fire, killing two people, injuring another before apparently turning the gun on himself. nbc's kirk gregory has the chilling...
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thank you. >> now to lansing, michigan. protesters have invaded the michigan state capital over the right to work. >> the unions are on the ropes. [chanting] >> top democrats here in michigan say despite everything you see, despite all the show of force on the lawn forecast capital -- >> i wasn't talking to you. you put your hands on me, see what happens. >> this stage of the fight is really over. [chanting] >> in michigan it's going to play out just like it did in wisconsin. >> we are here to protest against right to work. >> this is giving workers the freedom to choose. >> what time is it? >> union time. >> what time is it? >> union time. >> what time is it. >> union time. >> the so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with the economy, they have everything to do with politics. >> in the end it's a shakedown for political contributions and the democrats do well with unions so they want unions to be really powerful. >> the governor of michigan is one greedy nerd, and he's one weak geek, and we aren't going to t
thank you. >> now to lansing, michigan. protesters have invaded the michigan state capital over the right to work. >> the unions are on the ropes. [chanting] >> top democrats here in michigan say despite everything you see, despite all the show of force on the lawn forecast capital -- >> i wasn't talking to you. you put your hands on me, see what happens. >> this stage of the fight is really over. [chanting] >> in michigan it's going to play out just like it...
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i yield to the gentleman from michigan. >> mr. speaker, i rise in opposition to this rule and the underlying bills. in the dead of night, five days before christmas, republicans introduced legislation they are rushing to the floor to get funding for health care, food assistance, and other vital services. christmas is a season of giving. but republicans are taking food off of the table of millions of americans by cutting food assistance by $36 billion. taking the unemployment lifeline away from 2 million americans who are trying to get back on their feet. taking funding away from block grants that provide productive services for abused children. why would republicans insist on taking so much away from our families during this holiday season? so they can give an average $50,000 tax breaks to millionaires. i urge my colleagues to stand up for millions of children and workers who are facing in real cliff. vote no on the rule and the bill. >> at this time, i am happy to yield two minutes to a colorful calling from the ways and means co
i yield to the gentleman from michigan. >> mr. speaker, i rise in opposition to this rule and the underlying bills. in the dead of night, five days before christmas, republicans introduced legislation they are rushing to the floor to get funding for health care, food assistance, and other vital services. christmas is a season of giving. but republicans are taking food off of the table of millions of americans by cutting food assistance by $36 billion. taking the unemployment lifeline away...
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. >> michigan passed controversial right to work laws. we're on top of developing news. >> i'm krystal ball we fight for the right to party. it's a holiday party after the show and we'll be well behaved. >> sort of. >> i'm steve kornacki. i'm a resident party animal. you haven't seen the pictures of the 2002 massachusetts gubernatorial debate watch party. >> what? >> we stand corrected. it's always a party here in "the cycle." >>> developing news this hour. protesters rae main out of michigan's capitol building urging the governor not to sign right to work legislation and barring them from requiring workers to pay union dues as a condition of employment. the state house passed both bills today dealing with private and public sector unions. protesters were shouting "shame on you" from the gallery. michael moore said they're up to 15,000 people at the protest. state senate passed both bills last week and now michigan governor rick snyder says he'll sign them as early as tomorrow. nbc's ron mott is there. what's the latest? >> reporter: hey
. >> michigan passed controversial right to work laws. we're on top of developing news. >> i'm krystal ball we fight for the right to party. it's a holiday party after the show and we'll be well behaved. >> sort of. >> i'm steve kornacki. i'm a resident party animal. you haven't seen the pictures of the 2002 massachusetts gubernatorial debate watch party. >> what? >> we stand corrected. it's always a party here in "the cycle." >>>...
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michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of the union contract. only because of the union contracts. >> bob: c'mon, bob. you can find a video like this. >> bob: i can find it in every right to work state in the south lunch break. >> eric: they'd get fired. >> kimberly: they're not from texas. >> bob: they don't get fired in the south? >> eric: chrysler said we don't like to decision. we would have fired them but they can't. >> kimberly: they have protection. bostonright to work means whoever is not a union member gets the sweat they put in to it to get the good jobs. they're scabs because th
michigan voters, the overall households support. this 45% of the union households support the move. 39% of the democratic households support it. 55% of the republican households. there is momentum. they realize they have to do something. this would be a fundamental change. that could alter the history. >> eric: today's news is good example. they are chuging 40s and smoking weed in the lunch break and today they return to building cars that you and i drive the kids to school in. because of...
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right now lake michigan is two feet below it's average. why? because of record drought after last summer's record-breaking heat. it's not just the great lakes. if you follow the illinois tributary leading up to lake michigan into feeding into the mississippi, you finally get to st. louis. there is a 180-mile stretch of river that has withered from a thousand feet wide to just a few hundred feet. then a little further down between thebes and eye crow, cairo illinois, there are the pinnacles. they're legendary for boat captains because they had to navigate around them. but now because of the low river levels, it's impossible to pass there. now the army corp of engineers have set to destroy the big rocks in 15. right now senators and house committee members have asked the federal government to make it happen sooner. now thousands of barges are having trouble getting through. now that is a major problem for all of us. those ships bring 8 million tons of grain coal, steal and petroleum down the river every single month. now they're carrying less car
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they don't have jobs in michigan. do you know, by the way, this someone of my candidates for president, rick snyder. he's a magnificent governor and bless the legislator. detroit used to have millionaires than new york. it it was a beautiful city. they almost had the eolympics there. you can see the videos of what detroit was like. first it was dried by the mob with the race riots. then it was destroyed by the unions driving the jobs abroad. and people have the precise numbers on this. the amount of money you paid for a car that is paying for pensions of people who retired five years ago that's correct is a do youing state. one of the most beautiful states in the union and that's what happens. >> let me answer your great point. this is true. right now detroit is on the verge of bankruptcy. one of america's great cities. they have lost half their population. can go on the internet. i urge our viewers to go out there. you can buy homes in detroit for a thousand dollars. last time i was there, it was shocking how one boa
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and in michigan. is there in your meetings, is there a strategy for coming back? are these setbacks seen as reversible? >> well, ezra, i see it as a reawake inning of people. dispiriting because the attacks have been so relentless. it's a attacks on workers, on planned parenthood, on immigrants. it's all connected in our minds. so we are reawakening and going to build a powerful movement that we're going to build power in the workplace, build power at the ballot box, build power in the communities. and make it crystal clear that snyder can't get away with this by building a more powerful worker community movement in the state of michigan and rebuilding a middle class, not just in michigan, but all across this country. >> supporters of these laws, i don't really like to call them right-to-work laws, i think it's just framing. but support sayers why should you, if you have been hired by an employer, gm maybe, why should you have to pay to be represented by a union that you didn't vote for and maybe that
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want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you are about to say. it's obvious, the tactic from the left are driving me crazy. they are not going to win friends or influence people by that type of behavior or attacking me because i say that the governor is a mild mannered guy. >> bob: you say he is mild mannered. i don't know him. but maybe he is. he signed the bill, refused a signing ceremony. done behind closed doors. >> greg: unlike the healthcare bill. >> eric: it was done absolutely legally. the people of michigan -- >> bob: voters -- no, they did not. >> eric: theyer with lechted. every one o
want to bring jobs to michigan. for a generation or two things are declining. they looked to other states and say we'd like to be like indiana a change our fate. >> bob: let me ask you a question. they give them five days they had to under law. the state troopers were around who were exempt from this, by the way. the governor, the person you say is a mild mannered -- >> dana: don't. >> bob: what? i haven't said anything. >> dana: you are about to say -- i know what you...
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i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. we have hard working people in michigan, and this is giving workers choice. >> reporter: now, a point republicans put up front is that this is not targeting collective bargaining, they insist that they are not breaking the unions. all this does is make union dues, union membership optional with the exception of police and firefighters. jon? jon: well, is this fight over? i mean, are democrats in michigan throwing in the towel? >> reporter: no, no, not by a long shot. bob mccann says to say that this will face legal challenges is an understatement. to start with, they will challenge the manner in which this legislation was pushed through so rapidly in the lame duck session, the fact that demonstrators were kept out of the chambers, the fact that police were called in. democrats claim republicans have pulled every trick in the book. >> these guys have lied to us every step of the way, and they're acting like cowards by pushing this through in the dark of night in lame duck. >> he says t
i view this as solving an issue for michigan workers. we have hard working people in michigan, and this is giving workers choice. >> reporter: now, a point republicans put up front is that this is not targeting collective bargaining, they insist that they are not breaking the unions. all this does is make union dues, union membership optional with the exception of police and firefighters. jon? jon: well, is this fight over? i mean, are democrats in michigan throwing in the towel? >>...